Posts by joey jojo

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by Striker in

jude 1:9 (kjv) yet michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, the lord rebuke thee.. matthew 4:10 (kjv) then saith jesus unto him, get thee hence, satan: for it is written, thou shalt worship the lord thy god, and him only shalt thou serve.

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.....my understanding is that you all believe jesus is michael the archangel....... the two verses above describe two different personalities..... the archangel in jude rebuked satan in the name of the father, because he knew it was not his place to rebuke him, he knew that he didn't have the authority to do so, that the only person who possesses this authority is god himself.... while jesus, in matthew 4:10, does not need to invoke the name of the father to rebuke satan, because the father and jesus are one, not michael and jesus..... .... because michael the archangel is not jesus christ our savior.....

joey jojo

Revelation seems to indicate pretty clearly that Michael and Jesus are 2 separate entities.

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10/31 New York Times, "They’re Giving Scammers All Their Money. The Kids Can’t Stop Them." Has Watchtower scammed your family?

by Balaamsass2 in

the seniors in our family were scammed by watchtower, for over 7 figures.

an interesting read today to give some insight.. one of the most egregious con-artists is watchtower bible and tract society the “legal” entity for jehovah’s witnesses.

many retired jehovah’s witnesses have been targeted over the years to “loan” money for various “special projects” to further the “preaching work”, only to find they are never to be repaid.

joey jojo

My grandmother was an educated professional with a 50 year caerer. She became a jw after retirement. She donated quite a bit of money to the local congregation and was horrified when it was sold up and they were all told to go elsewhere to attend meetings.

How much inheritance/ retirement fund money does the WT use to fight CSA cases I wonder?

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Where do you see the Organization in the next 10 years?

by ukpimo in

realistically, between now and 2034, what do you think watchtower will change or reform to appear more mainstream?

what business opportunities do you see watchtower getting involved in?.

my predictions are as follows: .

joey jojo

As the years go by, I'm hearing of more older JW'S that I used to know dying. This was something that JW's of the last few generations were simply not prepared for. We were not supposed to get old, or lose so many along the way.

There is a big number of JW's that are living in this limbo, caught in between the old and new reality, the old reality brutally smashed courtesy of David Splanes overlapping chart. I think a lot are still in denial about their situation and I struggle to understand how they reconcile it in their minds.

The org seems to be taking off the pressure of the past and settling in for the long run. They might even have a 'thousand year business plan', like Japanese companies did in the 80s, but I doubt God's kingdom has anything to do with it.

As the last of the boomers die and Gen X gets too old to care about anymore, there will be nothing stopping them as no-one will be left to remember watching the failed prophecy of 1914. They are doing this already.

There is no-one alive anymore who witnessed the disappointment of 1914 and history will repeat. Time is their friend. There will always be suckers.

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Are you glad you got the Covid Vaccine? Did it help?

by liam in

i didn’t get the covid vaccine, but i admit, i was scared as shit i made the wrong decision because there was so much confusion out there.

practically all my family and most of my friends took the vaccine because everyone was depending on those in charge to speak the truth.

now a lot of them are sick, and they can't figure out why.

joey jojo

Anony Mous
@joey jojo: what risk did they expose others to? Do you have any evidence that masks/shielding/isolation were in any way successful?

Yes I do. Im sorry but your argument is political, not scientific. There is overwhelming evidence for this from studies worldwide by various institutions like hospitals and universities. If you think you know more than these experts, great - show us.

Just to be clear, the surgery masks do not stop pathogens, they are there to prevent hair and large particulate matter (spit) from falling into open wounds during a surgery.

You just answered your own question- saliva contains viruses, including covid. This argument is getting old.

Here are just some links:

https://www.phc.ox.ac.uk/news/comprehensive-review-confirms-masks-reduce-covid-19-transmission

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8892938/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8499874/

https://coronavirus.delaware.gov/covid-19-myth-or-fact/myth-or-fact-masks-are-effective-against-covid-19/

https://www.unsw.edu.au/newsroom/news/2023/02/yes--masks-reduce-the-risk-of-spreading-covid--despite-a-review-

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-face-masks-what-you-need-to-know

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Are you glad you got the Covid Vaccine? Did it help?

by liam in

i didn’t get the covid vaccine, but i admit, i was scared as shit i made the wrong decision because there was so much confusion out there.

practically all my family and most of my friends took the vaccine because everyone was depending on those in charge to speak the truth.

now a lot of them are sick, and they can't figure out why.

joey jojo

Good post Liam. I agree that everyone has the right to accept or reject a vaccine like Covid.

A lot of the fights were due to people trying to convince others that the vaccine was purposely developed to kill, or magically control others with nano computers etc.

The problem was that the ones that were most opposed to the vaccine were also the ones most likely to not wear masks and not isolate, putting others at risk. They believed their personal rights exceeded their community responsibility.

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Are you glad you got the Covid Vaccine? Did it help?

by liam in

i didn’t get the covid vaccine, but i admit, i was scared as shit i made the wrong decision because there was so much confusion out there.

practically all my family and most of my friends took the vaccine because everyone was depending on those in charge to speak the truth.

now a lot of them are sick, and they can't figure out why.

joey jojo

SheEatsDragons
"Healthcare" industry is not based on love (although there are some very loving individuals who work in that field) it's based on profit$

Yes, all nurses should work for free. Everytime they wipe someones butt, or get punched in the face by a drug addict they should be smiling. Just knowing they have helped others should be reward enough.

The U.S is the most proudly capitalist country in the world. Why wouldnt its healthcare system be a multi-billion dollar industry?

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WHAT DOES THE NEW LIGHT ON THE UNITED NATIONS REVEAL ABOUT THE WATCHTOWER

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/8p5z-acq8yi?si=zs5r75kguxkk1woc.

so what you are about to watch is the 3rd adjustment that was introduced in the annual meeting by geofftey jackson and it has to do with the their new understanding on the united nations, so here is the verse revelation 17:12 :"these have one thought, so they give their power and authority to the wild beast.

" so they used to believe that the "one thought" in this verse was the one thought to destroy babylon the great but that has now changed to one thought empowering the united nations with more powers to carry on god's will and bring armageddon.

joey jojo

Because JW's have a version of revelation programmed into their heads from the gb, reading it objectively can be difficult. At least it was for me.

There is a reason we studied it over and over in the 90s, with revised notes every time. That reason is because the JW version doesn't make sense. They try so hard to apply a 2000 yr old text to events of the 20th century , focussed on a fringe group in north America. The GB should feel humiliated about a lot of the explanations they came up with.

Revelation is an interesting and entertaining book if it is read without prejudice. It is pretty obvious that the whore is simply Rome and the wild beast is the Roman Empire. With that context, the book begins to make sense.

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JWs on LinkedIn

by usualusername1 in

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when i'm extremely board i look up jws on linkedin.. steven is clearly counting his time.

lol.

joey jojo

Linkedin is full of simps pretending they love working 60 hrs a week for a boss they hate.

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BABYLON THE GREAT IS NOT FALLING ANYMORE? (NEW LIGHT FROM THE ANNUAL MEETING)

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/rsbfa_7lqv4?si=muuxmgtll1n1ifad.

the watchtower’s babylon the great: a shrinking reality?.

so this latest annual meeting introduced a new idea about babylon the great, and here is the part from geoffrey jackson's talk we real need to dig in and consider it's ramifications..... so you’ve got to hand it to them; they know how to keep things interesting with their ever-evolving interpretations and, of course, those classic "adjustments" in understanding.

joey jojo

Vidiot
Kicking and screaming into the 21st Century.
Problem is, mainstreaming inevitably neuters all the the things the Org holds up as hard proof they alone have the Truth.
Once that’s gone, where’s the incentive to stay?

Country music and big hats?

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Does maths prove the bible is wrong?

by joey jojo in

there might be a few that find this post boring, because, you know - its maths.. i like maths but im not a mathematician or condsider myself any type of expert on the subject.. there is a branch of maths called propositional logic that is used widely in computers and computer programming that allows computers to make decisions based on certain conditions.

for example: if a condition exists, then do something.

like: if the a button is pressed, then the letter a will appear on the screen.

joey jojo

SheEatsDragons
IF retarded people try to do math THEN they sometimes get the wrong answer.

Try harder.